



{"id":32768,"date":"2022-05-11T14:12:49","date_gmt":"2022-05-11T14:12:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/media.am\/?p=32768"},"modified":"2022-05-14T14:41:19","modified_gmt":"2022-05-14T14:41:19","slug":"contradictory-statements-by-the-authorities-about-the-enclaves","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/verified\/2022\/05\/11\/32768\/","title":{"rendered":"Contradictory Statements By The Authorities About The Enclaves"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">On May 10, Azerbaijani Deputy Foreign Minister Khalaf Khalafov <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/haqqin.az\/news\/245475\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">announced<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> that &#8220;the return of 7 villages in the Kazakh region (enclave villages of Tavush region &#8211; group) and Kyarki (Tigranashen &#8211; group) will be carried out in accordance with the requirements of the demarcation process.&#8221;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">&#8220;Armenia can never declare that these are not the territories of Azerbaijan, they belong to Azerbaijan,&#8221; Khalafov said, adding that &#8220;the return of those territories to Azerbaijan requires a demarcation process, so the issue will be discussed within that framework.&#8221;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">In response to Deputy Minister Khalafov, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Republic of Armenia\u00a0Edmon Marukyan <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/armenpress.am\/arm\/news\/1082803\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">told<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Armenpress that there is no legal substantiation that there has ever been a de jure Azerbaijani enclave in Armenia.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">&#8220;At the moment we do not have any legal justification that there was ever a de jure Azerbaijani enclave in Armenia. On the contrary, there are legal grounds for the village of Artsvashen belonging to Armenia,&#8221; Marukyan stressed.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">This episode would not have caught the attention of media.am&#8217;s fact-finding team if it were not for the previous statements of the authorities about the affiliation of the enclaves, which now contradict the position of official Yerevan.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">The issue of enclaves was raised in May 2021, when former Armenian Ambassador to the Vatican Mikayel Minasyan <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/mikayelm\/131\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">announced<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> on a Telegram channel that Nikol Pashinyan had agreed to hand over 6 villages in Armenia to Azerbaijan. Later, a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/info_armenia\/34?single&amp;fbclid=IwAR1MPD7Xl1j197Mqtc5n8HzLffSK001M_y2gz7FuHgjE9eavjyQMskJ3gMQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">document<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> was published on another Telegram channel, which allegedly confirmed Minasyan&#8217;s words. On the same day, Nikol Pashinyan <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.primeminister.am\/hy\/statements-and-messages\/item\/2021\/05\/20\/Nikol-Pashinyan-Speech-National-Assembly\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">confirmed<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> from the tribune of the National Assembly that what was published was really a draft document put on the table for discussion, and in his opinion, its signing is in Armenia&#8217;s interests.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">On May 24, Vahe Ghalumyan, a member of the &#8220;My Step&#8221; faction, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.aravot.am\/2021\/05\/24\/1193118\/?fbclid=IwAR00qK-jTqagOaWT50DjzZKRE8dUnWWHbVoWLK65TE9wbkcKEb14AefogCw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">said<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> in an interview that there were Azerbaijani enclaves in the Tavush region, which are under the control of Armenia, and listed them.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">The names of the villages are Barkhudarlu, Kheyrimli, Sofulu, and Voskepar. It is marked on the map as Azerbaijani territory.&#8221;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">On May 30, a report <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=U0sCZ01l6Zk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">was aired<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> on Public TV&#8217;s &#8220;Lurer&#8221; program, which spoke about the Azerbaijani enclaves in the two regions of Armenia, Ararat and Tavush, and the Armenian enclaves in Azerbaijan.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Weeks later, on June 11, Nikol Pashinyan <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=oJzveRyPzJ4&amp;ab_channel=%D4%B1%D5%A6%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">spoke<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> about the enclaves during the election campaign, emphasizing their approach \u2024 &#8220;We also have an enclave, we also have Artsvashen under the rule of Azerbaijan. Our logic is that one enclave will be exchanged with the other.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Pashinyan stressed that there are solutions to the issues related to the enclaves defined by international law and practice. &#8220;We just leave it alone: whatever is under their control, stays under their control, whatever is under our control, stays under our control.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Nikol Pashinyan, who was re-elected Prime Minister on November 7, 2021, spoke again about the Azerbaijani territories in Armenia during a question-and-answer session with the National Assembly-Government.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">&#8220;It must be said that as a result of the first war, there are also territories of Soviet Azerbaijan, which were and are under the control of Armenia.&#8221;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">This year, on April 7, 2022, the Prime Minister once again <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=DOC7vyUpK4U&amp;ab_channel=%D4%B1%D5%A6%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">spoke<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> about the Azerbaijani lands in the territory of Armenia\u2024<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">&#8220;You know that there are territories of Armenia that are under the control of Azerbaijan, there are territories that are under the control of Armenia. These issues must be resolved through the results of negotiations.&#8221;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">At the same time, the Secretary of the Security Council of Armenia Armen Grigoryan <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.azatutyun.am\/amp\/31591766.html?fbclid=IwAR1IKNbCxty1hVIqovxvnQfkVl5Erxp7FmPOhXJa7z-8YXVSot-idKBSknM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">said<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> on &#8220;Azatutyun&#8221; air in December 2021 that according to the information in their possession at that moment, there was no legal basis for the enclaves.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">&#8220;It is possible that the head of the community has made a decision, or the head of the Soviet Economy &#8211; Group (\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0435\u0442\u0441\u043a\u043e\u0435 \u0445\u043e\u0437\u044f\u0439\u0441\u0442\u0432\u043e) has made a decision, but it has no legal basis, the documents that existed from the 1920s to the present have a legal basis: at least until the 70s. In other words, our studies have shown that there is no such issue,&#8221; said the Secretary of the Security Council.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">It turns out that the village of Tigranashen (Kyark) in the Ararat region and the territories of Verin Voskepar, Barkhudarlu, and Sofulu of the Tavush region are part of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Azerbaijan with different Soviet maps. However, according to Marukyan and Armen Grigoryan, those maps have no legal basis.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Thus, state officials actually contradict each other: Edmon Marukyan and Armen Grigoryan claim that there is no legal basis for the existence of an Azerbaijani enclave in Armenia. At the same time, Prime Minister Pashinyan consistently puts forward the narrative that there are Azerbaijani lands in the territory of Armenia, and his teammate Vahe Ghalumyan mentions the specific names of those lands (enclaves).<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\"><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Ophelia Simonyan<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:3,&quot;335551620&quot;:3,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On May 10, Azerbaijani Deputy Foreign Minister Khalaf Khalafov announced that &#8220;the return of 7 villages in the Kazakh region (enclave villages of Tavush region &#8211; group) and Kyarki (Tigranashen &#8211; group) will be carried out in accordance with the requirements of the demarcation process.&#8221;\u00a0 &#8220;Armenia can never declare that these are not the territories<a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/verified\/2022\/05\/11\/32768\/\"> Read the full article&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":32731,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32768","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-verified","author_posts-ophelia-simonyan-en"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32768","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32768"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32768\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32769,"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32768\/revisions\/32769"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/32731"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32768"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32768"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/media.am\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32768"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}